Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

[Gnomad]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

I've said it myself, and I'll stick up for it again: When I say it's my opinion that it sounds lazy, of course I don't KNOW whether they gave it their all or not, it's just my opinion that it doesn't in fact sound (to me) like much effort was put into it. Think about the consequences of it NOT being true, maybe they worked painstakingly on this album... uh oh... That doesn't bode well then. If so much effort was put in to get simple beats and note progressions, things aren't looking too good.

To counter your story, I've written lyrics before and showed a friend that I sometimes collaborate with, he said: "hmm, you didn't put much work into these did you?" He was right, I didn't, he could tell. The only reason he had to tell was because he was basing it off past work. It's enough.

In my opinion people need to shut the fuck up telling people HOW they can critique something, and just let it go.

"It sounds lazy." and "The band got lazy." aren't the same thing. You've always spoken to your opinions, and I haven't had a problem with that. You're not proclaiming to state facts. That's what I'm speaking to. Chill out, bro.

[jgsb2001]

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Buying a CD helps the band far less than buying a concert ticket or a shirt. Unless they have a 360 deal, which I'm sure dredg does not.

I think most people know that . . . you are missing the point of my comments.

[Ars Sycro]

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Buying a CD helps the band far less than buying a concert ticket or a shirt. Unless they have a 360 deal, which I'm sure dredg does not.

[jgsb2001]

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it doesn't make anyone a better fan. all it means you have more money to throw away. i can't afford to spend money on things i don't like.

I agree Sangreal, however my comment is directed at those who could purchase the album but won't because of the direction of the album. I definitely understand the economic situation of our time and unfortunately my comments were not specific enough.

If you have the means to support a band (dredg in this case) and choose not to, then I stand by my comment. If you don't like the album and you can't support the band due to a financial situation, then that is whole different situation.

[FeebleFables]

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The only complaints I don't like are the ones that claim "The band got lazy." I've worked on games that got reviewed and I worked my fucking ass off and I've seen reviewers claim that me and my team were "lazy". Fuck that. Fuck those guys so hard. You don't have to like it, and I think there are some very valid reasons for not appreciating this album... but don't call the band lazy, that's just fucked up. You weren't there, you don't know how much was put into this, so as far as that's concerned, just shut your fucking mouth and stick to what you do know.

Sorry, mini-rant over.

I've said it myself, and I'll stick up for it again: When I say it's my opinion that it sounds lazy, of course I don't KNOW whether they gave it their all or not, it's just my opinion that it doesn't in fact sound (to me) like much effort was put into it. Think about the consequences of it NOT being true, maybe they worked painstakingly on this album... uh oh... That doesn't bode well then. If so much effort was put in to get simple beats and note progressions, things aren't looking too good.

To counter your story, I've written lyrics before and showed a friend that I sometimes collaborate with, he said: "hmm, you didn't put much work into these did you?" He was right, I didn't, he could tell. The only reason he had to tell was because he was basing it off past work. It's enough.

In my opinion people need to shut the fuck up telling people HOW they can critique something, and just let it go.

[sangreal314]

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Didn't specifically call anyone a bandwagoner (an analogy was used) . . . and no I don't think I'm a better fan, but you feel I said that and that is fine. In regard to supporting the band, yes, those that purchase the album simply to support Dredg are better fans than those that don't.

Your comment on loyalty is too general to respond to other than for me to say that loyalty to a band and personal growth have next to nothing in common.

Differences of opinion here, Frank. You read what you wanted and that is fine.

it doesn't make anyone a better fan. all it means you have more money to throw away. i can't afford to spend money on things i don't like.

[Frank Nit]

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Yeah, I know. It's nice to keep getting your validation, though!

[jgsb2001]

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. . . saw that used by another member . . . still funny though.

[Frank Nit]

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[jgsb2001]

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I don't think it's fair to call anyone on traversing.net a "bandwagoner," regardless of the fact that you clearly think you're a better fan than some people. Loyalty is overrated and often detrimental to personal growth.

Didn't specifically call anyone a bandwagoner (an analogy was used) . . . and no I don't think I'm a better fan, but you feel I said that and that is fine. In regard to supporting the band, yes, those that purchase the album simply to support Dredg are better fans than those that don't.

Your comment on loyalty is too general to respond to other than for me to say that loyalty to a band and personal growth have next to nothing in common.

Differences of opinion here, Frank. You read what you wanted and that is fine.

[Gnomad]

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The only complaints I don't like are the ones that claim "The band got lazy." I've worked on games that got reviewed and I worked my fucking ass off and I've seen reviewers claim that me and my team were "lazy". Fuck that. Fuck those guys so hard. You don't have to like it, and I think there are some very valid reasons for not appreciating this album... but don't call the band lazy, that's just fucked up. You weren't there, you don't know how much was put into this, so as far as that's concerned, just shut your fucking mouth and stick to what you do know.

Sorry, mini-rant over.

[Frank Nit]

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Give the album time to grow on you (if you have the patience, that is). The music is good, if you are able to disregard your expectations of what dredg should put out. I admit, on my first listen I was taken aback by the 80's vibe and my perception that the album lacked cohesion, but I soon got over it and appreciated CAMS for what it is - a collection of heartfelt songs. It isn't the concept album many of us are used to, but it is still Dredg. Also, the new songs sound awesome live! They don't feel out of place at all within the context of a live show.

If you are not buying the album simply because you think it sucks then you probably aren't a Dredg fan, but a style fan. And that is okay. Just like sports fans, many music fans are bandwagon-ers. And this is the point at which many will jump ship. No worries, there are many other potential albums that will fulfill your musical needs.

This is their KidA, Load, One Second (Paradise Lost - check the transition from Draconian Times to One Second if you want to hear ultra change). If you're not into CAMS, cool. Go listen to something else, or better, listen to the older dredg stuff and attend a concert to support a band that has obviously enhanced your life in a positive way.

I don't think it's fair to call anyone on traversing.net a "bandwagoner," regardless of the fact that you clearly think you're a better fan than some people. Loyalty is overrated and often detrimental to personal growth.

[And we'll just put a happy little bush over here.]

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yes. this would make the most sense. however, i don't find the cd to be crappy. it's just not up to par with previous releases. but that's where opinion sets in, and god knows that no one can change those.

Well, dredg just needs to come out in support of GLBTQI rights and then their crappy albums will sell as well as Lady Gaga's crappy albums.

[vsd]

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It's jsbedlam's avatar, that's all I know.

(http://traversingboard.com/member.php?u=187)

[AnewKINDofFEELING]

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Is that from Bedlam?