Songs that didn't make the PPD Cut (b-sides?)

[embrace]

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i'm assuming you're bunching me in with those who think you police the place...

but i'm not. all i said was that this is a message board.. who cares if some speculation gets out of control? that's what makes all of dredg's new albums fun.. the anticipation leading up to it. arguments don't need to be had just because somebody does or doesn't think a certain song or set of songs is being included on the album.

[rossimo]

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Speculation, anticipation, trying to figure out what is what, and discussion with other people with similar interests is what makes all of this FUN.

What is the point of any of this if all we are supposed to be talking about are 100% confirmed facts? That's no fun at all.

[Ars Sycro]

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I never said not to talk about it. But to state it as fact ["Information is Waterbourne" or vice versa] is wrong until we know that it is.

[Frank Nit]

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i don't think anyone truly believes you are "policing" this place, but a lot of us would like to see you lighten up a bit and show your true excitement.

[evasivetear]

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thoughts:

Stamp Of Origin - Pessimistic on that blog being related to it's not worth it....
the only thing i could see there is the negative titles being similar. drew said it's not worth it would most likely not be on the album.....the only way that song could be pessimistic, is if they instead included the instrumental interlude of it's not worth it, on the album (during the most recent tour, it's not worth it was cut down to a drum beat & the kitty clip between a song or two)

informaton = waterborne?
maybe. as said, the chorus may suggest it. it does make sense to use it on the album, since they polished the song so nicely. however, they did not play this song on their last tour. not that that means anything...

think about placement of the song for a minute though.....the lyrics for waterborne were about someone on the last day of their life. in this letter that this album represents, don't you think something like that would go near the end of the album, as opposed to around the middle at track 7? just something to think about.....i would like to believe that information = waterborne....but logically, Ars is right. until you hear a clip of "information," all you can do is guess. even if the chorus is the same, dredg has, in the past, used parts of axed songs in new songs on a few different occassions. hell, even in the orignal version of it's not worth it, gavin used the lyrics "although the ink is red, blood stained by the words you said..." those lyrics were brought over to the blood stains demo that drew played over the phone on that radio interview......and.....blood stains isn't on the album now.

shrug....

[Gnomad]

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Considering we've heard a small bit of pessimistic in leaflet 14 and it didn't sound anything like It's Not Worth It, I think Pessimistic being INWI is debunked.

[Ars Sycro]

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I'm gonna laugh at [most of] y'all if Information isn't Waterbourne

[Gnomad]

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Why would you laugh? That'd mean no Waterborne... and that would be sad.

[Ars Sycro]

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It would just mean no CD release of Waterbourne. The song would still exist and probably still get played.

[Gnomad]

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I don't think you're going to be laughing... I'm pretty confident in that.

[Ars Sycro]

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I don't even remember which song is Waterbourne to tell you the truth. Outside of Ireland, I think I've only heard each of the songs that hit YouTube once.

[rossimo]

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Waterbourne is definitely now called Mourning This Morning. Because he "headed out to the morning air" so it's got to be that. And they would mourn his death, for sure. 100%.

[fiKnight]

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Why would you laugh? That'd mean no Waterborne... and that would be sad.

Killer tune.

[Frank Nit]

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Waterbourne is definitely now called Mourning This Morning. Because he "headed out to the morning air" so it's got to be that. And they would mourn his death, for sure. 100%.

noice.

[Ars Sycro]

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Ars Sycro added 39 Minutes and 25 Seconds later...

Since we're throwing out other ideas, after re-listening to Waterbourne, any chance it could be "Long Days And Vague Clues"? I don't recall if the idea was to write a song about it or just name a song.... but I think some of the lyrics could tie in to that title.

The entire second half of the song is about the anticipation of knowing he's dying today and all the weight that carries. Also the chorus could fit in with "vague clues"

Just a little bit, just a little bit
A little more information
To add to my confusion
To add to the frustration,
I don't need it!
No I don't need it!