strata

[kata rokkar]

Even if you buy 10 and sell 9 sealed copies at a used CD store, it will still count towards the SoundScan numbers, which are the basis for the Billboard charts and something that the industry takes very seriously - even smaller labels like Wind-Up.

small labels like Wind-Up? You mean the one with Creed and Evanescence? You must be talking about another Wind-up...

[erikpemberton]

Even if you buy 10 and sell 9 sealed copies at a used CD store, it will still count towards the SoundScan numbers, which are the basis for the Billboard charts and something that the industry takes very seriously - even smaller labels like Wind-Up.

small labels like Wind-Up? You mean the one with Creed and Evanescence? You must be talking about another Wind-up...

The whole label is like 20 employees working out of one central office. They've just been lucky with their promotions and catalog. In reality Dredg is signed to a much, much larger label but has seen far less sucess than what some of the bands on Wind-Up have. Hell, they've seen less success than some bands on other smaller labels like Roadrunner, Sanctuary and Lava.

Now, when you compare Wind-Up to these fucking boutique labels that exist ONLY to put out Namibian jazz grindcore, of course they're not a "small" label. But you indie kids on this board never fail to bring the LOLocaust down upon me.

[evasivetear]

But you indie kids on this board never fail to bring the LOLocaust down upon me.

so you're saying that you find yourself in an oven of laughter?



i'm going to hell

[erikpemberton]

But you indie kids on this board never fail to bring the LOLocaust down upon me.

so you're saying that you find yourself in an oven of laughter?

Yes, often times I am laughing my ash off.

[BuddyGoodness]

hahahaha lolocaust, brilliant.

[jsbedlam]

haha you guys are fucking killing me . . .

[Ars Sycro]

Even if you buy 10 and sell 9 sealed copies at a used CD store, it will still count towards the SoundScan numbers, which are the basis for the Billboard charts and something that the industry takes very seriously - even smaller labels like Wind-Up.

small labels like Wind-Up? You mean the one with Creed and Evanescence? You must be talking about another Wind-up...

Wind-Up is a small label, much like Victory Records (Hawthorne Heights, Thursday, Taking Back Sunday), Fueled By Ramen (Panic! At The Disco, Gym Class Heroes), Vagrant (Dashboard Confessional), Roadrunner (Megadeth, Nickelback, Slipknot, Stone Sour), Equal Vision (Coheed and Cambria).

Just because a band has success on a label does not mean that the label isn't a "small" label.

[Ars Sycro]

http://www.absolutepunk.net/showthread.php?t=255505

[kata rokkar]

what I meant by small... is small as in selling records, not staff members. Most of these ‘small’ record labels are NO different than big corporate record companies. Definitely with Victory and Wind-up, which churn out flavor-of-the-week garbage daily.

strata + kaddisfly. yaa! I finally have a reason to see kaddisfly.

[Ars Sycro]

Yes, but one or two bands selling a lot of records when you have 20-30 bands on your roster does not come out to a lot of money.

[kata rokkar]

Yes, but one or two bands selling a lot of records when you have 20-30 bands on your roster does not come out to a lot of money.

that would ring true with say, Vagrant or Equalvision or even Saddle Creek. But with Roadrunner, Wind-up and Victory, I don't think I need to tell anyone how many mainstream artists are on those labels and have sold over millions of records (ex. Evanescence sold 13 million in 2003/04 alone). I wouldn't be surprised if Wind-up starts to advertise Starta's "Stay Young" as the next "One Thing." Seriously, fuck Wind-up. Any label that distributes Creed and Alterbridge is Satan's crony in my book.

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kata rokkar - bringing the LOLocaust since 16 Sep 2005

[Dredg]

That would be such an amazing tour.

[sangreal314]

well 65 days of static, which i have never heard, is opening for the cure in sep. just noticed that in an email.

[jsbedlam]

go listen to some 65daysofstatic right now.  damn good band.

[sangreal314]

go listen to some 65daysofstatic right now.  damn good band.

i can't get the ftp to work now.