Hypothetical: Dream Theater

[Gnomad]

pt is now anti-taping, period. regardless of tour.

This thread heard otherwise. And if the guy is a taper, I tend to believe him.

[And we'll just put a happy little bush over here.]

Anti-taping? Hmmm... first Deadwing sucks, and now they're anti-taping... wow... this band was once awesome...

just last fall...

a taper friend of mine who is obsessed with pt assures me that their anti-recording policy is official for all tours from last fall on.

i tend to believe him on this matter.

[SoundscapeMN]

from PT-Weeds

Hi,

As stated last week, the ban on trading recordings of concerts from
the 'Arriving Somewhere...' tour, featuring material from 'Fear Of A
Blank Planet', ends when the new album is released. At the time of
writing, that should be in mid-April.  No restriction on
recording/trading future concerts has been agreed.

Thanks for your patience!

NRT
Moderator

[And we'll just put a happy little bush over here.]

well, that trumps my taper friend who apparently lies.

[Thommi]

well, that trumps my taper friend who apparently lies.

Uhm, your taper friend (me) doesn't lie. PT is not taper friendly anymore for a couple years and they are even less taper friendly since the start of the Deadwing tours in 2005. Taping policy from their official site:

"The band do not allow concerts to be recorded as audio or video, and anyone seen doing so at a show will be asked to stop and the recording confiscated. The band have started to make available high quality live recordings on their own Transmission label, and these are all mixed from properly recorded multitrack tapes. While the band are aware that private tape trading does go on, they will be extremely pissed off to find anyone selling (or auctioning on Ebay) live recordings on CDR or other media for personal profit!!"

SoundscapeMN: The "No restriction on recording/trading future concerts has been agreed." part in your quote has never been posted on PT-Weeds. Where do you have it from? The moderator's message there was rather:

"Hi all,

To answer an enquiry received off-list (or which should have been,
anyway), and as a general reminder:

The ban on trading recordings of concerts from the 'Arriving
Somewhere...' tour, featuring material from 'Fear Of A Blank Planet',
ends when the new album is released. At the time of writing, that
should be in mid-April.

There's no ban on trading Blackfield recordings, new or otherwise.

Thanks for your patience!

NRT
Moderator"

He was just "talking" about the trading status of new recordings on the PT Weeds group from the day of the album release, not more, not less. PT won't ever be taper friendly again, but they tolerate private trading as long as no money is exchanged between parties.

Added after 7 minutes:

Anti-taping? Hmmm... first Deadwing sucks, and now they're anti-taping... wow... this band was once awesome...

Why does Deadwing suck? Saying that something sucks is kinda immature without giving any reasons.

[Gnomad]

I've already had this argument with other people. I'm not having it with you. Deadwing sucks, I don't owe you an explanation.

[SoundscapeMN]

well, that trumps my taper friend who apparently lies.

Uhm, your taper friend (me) doesn't lie. PT is not taper friendly anymore for a couple years and they are even less taper friendly since the start of the Deadwing tours in 2005. Taping policy from their official site:

"The band do not allow concerts to be recorded as audio or video, and anyone seen doing so at a show will be asked to stop and the recording confiscated. The band have started to make available high quality live recordings on their own Transmission label, and these are all mixed from properly recorded multitrack tapes. While the band are aware that private tape trading does go on, they will be extremely pissed off to find anyone selling (or auctioning on Ebay) live recordings on CDR or other media for personal profit!!"

SoundscapeMN: The "No restriction on recording/trading future concerts has been agreed." part in your quote has never been posted on PT-Weeds. Where do you have it from? The moderator's message there was rather:

"Hi all,

To answer an enquiry received off-list (or which should have been,
anyway), and as a general reminder:

The ban on trading recordings of concerts from the 'Arriving
Somewhere...' tour, featuring material from 'Fear Of A Blank Planet',
ends when the new album is released. At the time of writing, that
should be in mid-April.

There's no ban on trading Blackfield recordings, new or otherwise.

Thanks for your patience!

NRT
Moderator"

He was just "talking" about the trading status of new recordings on the PT Weeds group from the day of the album release, not more, not less. PT won't ever be taper friendly again, but they tolerate private trading as long as no money is exchanged between parties.

dude, I POSTED the INQUIRY ON THE GROUP, if you claim to know and read it. The moderator replied VIA EMAIL directly to MY MESSAGE POSTED IN THE GROUP. It's not a MIS-QUOTE of any kind.

and he later emailed me back when I asked specifically what the band's feeling on taping is. atleast in regards to PT-Weeds:

Hi again,

I don't think the band would ever publicly support recording; the best
we can expect is for them to 'turn a blind eye'.

The trading ban is specific to PT-Weeds, but was requested and agreed
by Andy Leff personally - it is acknowledged by the band/management
that recording and trading will *discretely* restart once the album is
out.

Regards,

NRT
Moderator

so, but more of the point is..the band hasn't CHANGED THEIR STANCE on taping..all they did was emphasize the desire and policing of it on the ARRIVING SOMEWHERE Tour..and the band's feeling on it is THE EXACT SAME AS IT WAS before that tour.

but more of the point is, taping has and will go on..anyway, so there is really no reason to look at the band ANY DIFFERENT than you did before. You want PT recordings..they will be out there still.

[Thommi]

dude, I POSTED the INQUIRY ON THE GROUP, if you claim to know and read it. The moderator replied VIA EMAIL directly to MY MESSAGE POSTED IN THE GROUP. It's not a MIS-QUOTE of any kind.
and he later emailed me back when I asked specifically what the band's feeling on taping is. atleast in regards to PT-Weeds:

Alright, thanks for the clarification. I was just a bit irritated because it looked like you were quoting something that has been posted on the group and not privately to you. My bad...

so, but more of the point is..the band hasn't CHANGED THEIR STANCE on taping..all they did was emphasize the desire and policing of it on the ARRIVING SOMEWHERE Tour..and the band's feeling on it is THE EXACT SAME AS IT WAS before that tour.

Yep, my thoughts exactly. They are still anti-taping but tolerate trading...
But who cares? I'm looking forward to taping them for the 6th, 7th and maybe 8th time this year.

but more of the point is, taping has and will go on..anyway, so there is really no reason to look at the band ANY DIFFERENT than you did before. You want PT recordings..they will be out there still.

True. I know of over 40 recordings from the last tour (which will circulate from the day of the album release, well... at least most of them...), so really nothing to worry about.

Thommi