thursday thread: faking your own death

[Trathena]

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LOL! You're awesome. Keep talking! I really am learning a lot from this thread.

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That didn't stop me from posting

which is too bad.

[Knifeboy]

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Yeah, really. If I had just kept my mouth shut.. noone would have gotten hurt

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people got hurt?

[Ars Sycro]

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It was all over the news. Geez, turn on the news some!

[Trathena]

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It was all over the news. Geez, turn on the news some!

I only listen to Democracy Now. It'll have to wait until Monday.

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I ONLY READ INDEPENDENT NEWS!

[Trathena]

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I ONLY READ THE RUDE PUNDIT!!

SOMETIMES AMERICABLOG!

OTHER TIMES ALTERNET! OR TRUTHOUT!!

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see, what i cannot stand about those types of blogs is that they are just as bad as rush and his friends, partisan to the core.

[Trathena]

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partisan to the core.

That's why I read them.

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but what is the point? the right blames the left, the left blames the right. ahh, 'progress'.

onward! progress! or so it seems.

[Trathena]

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Because I still need to find out what's going on in the world, and AmericaBlog and Rude Pundit and DN get me the information. They report on events that mainstream doesn't, especially DN. AmericaBlog provides "mainstream" news, but also news from Europe. The Rude Pundit covers mainstream events, but also links to other sources on the Net. I don't need to explain the value of DN.

Alternet and TruthOut give me opinions on these events that sometimes I haven't considered, but most of the time agree with. They also have writers that are articulate and informed. Yes, I'm their choir, but that's what I want from my news now. I don't really need or want to know what conservatives think about anything. I can usually guess anyway.

We're going to get our news with either a left or right slant. I'll take the news with the left slant. I trust it more, and it doesn't annoy me because most of the time, I agree.

I see it this way: I was raised by the other side. I was raised by them, bullied by them, brainwashed by them, and kicked around by them. (to make this even a little on-topic: I was raised in the Italian, Catholic culture)

When I began paying attention to politics (and everything else) at 25, and realized I thought mostly differently from literally everyone I knew, I worked hard at balancing everything I read. I did that for years. "Always listen and consider what the other side has to say." "Respect differences." And I did. For decades. I watched as the neocons took over in the 80s and 90s. By the time they did, I already knew what I was in for. I knew what it meant, the long-term repercussions.

The fact is, Auto, I know what the "other side" thinks, why they think it, what they believe, and why they believe it. I know it; I understand it; but I don't respect it. I don't need or want to hear it.

I'm not interested in hearing the other side's reasons for why invading Iraq was the right thing to do.

I'm not interested in hearing the other side's justification for why single-payer health care isn't desirable.

Or their arguments for creationism in schools.

Or their arguments against gay marriage.

Or their "debunking" of global warming.

Most media feels the need to report "both sides," as if the American Right's side is worth considering. It's not, but no one will say that publicly.

I don't always agree with the left, but I mostly do. I almost never agree with neoliberals or neoconservatives. It's possible that one day I'll want to listen to politically conservative pundits again, but there is literally no one out there right now that I'm interested in listening to because--as far as I know--rational ones don't exist. Maybe Andrew Sullivan? Maybe that dude who wrote Blue Like Jazz? I enjoyed William Henry's In Defense of Elitism very much, but he's dead now.

When people say that Michael Moore or Al Franken are the liberal equivalent of Rush or Coulter, I think that's bullshit, simply because Moore and Franken are intelligent and rational. However, after the 2004 election, I spent a number of months feeling like the left equivalent of Anne Coulter.

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i think it is best if i should leave this alone.

[Trathena]

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i think it is best if i should leave this alone.

Well, I was nervous to post it. I know it's closed-minded at best. Bigoted at worst.

It's how I've felt for a long while though. Just a fierce disappointment and anger with what's been going on in our country and a helplessness to really do anything about it.

That makes me scared, and that makes me angry, and I end up saying shit like the above post.

At the end of the day, though? I keep trying to make the world a better place. But sometimes, I feel like what I wrote.

[Ars Sycro]

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i think it is best if i should leave this alone.

Me too