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    So im not sure how many of you actually follow UFC, or at least occasionally catch a few fights. When i was younger i would go to the video store and they would have the earlier UFC bouts and i remember seeing them and it was always some overweight gross guy with no technique beating on another.

    Throughout the years it has become full of technique and strategy with very little "drunken bar" fighting style. So i've become a little of a fan. I bought into MMA being a legit sport and i enjoy it more than i do boxing. I bought into the fact that Dana White, the "comish" of UFC, wants the ufc to be more of a sport rather than a drama filled specticle that the WWE has become. And it was that, it became a well respected sport.

    Now in comes Brock Lesnar, a former college wrestler turned WWE star, turned failed football star, turned UFC heavyweight champion. Which he procured after 3 fights in the UFC. I disagree with the way he entered the UFC and i disagree with how fast he got a title chance. Usually one in an individual sport like UFC or boxing you have to work your way up the ranks. He did not, he fought 2 matches (one being an undercard) and lost the other to submission. After that he gets a title shot, which is completely ridiculous.

    My problem with this whole thing was tonight, UFC 100. It was a large card with tons of big fights. His being the top fight. It was a rematch between Lesnar and the guy who submitted him, Frank Mir. Lesnar is a big man, and he has heavy hands. My problem is not with his fighting style, and mainly his rise to the top is because of the lack of heavyweight stars in the UFC. But with Dana white, the comish, stating that he desires to have a organization of fighters that have class and fight with dignity and then have this man fight in your league... is just horrible.

    Tonight Lesnar won fair and square. But before the match he refused to touch gloves with Frank Mir. And that is always expected unless there was a huge grudge between fighters, which there was not. The fight went on and lesnar ended up KOing Mir. Afterwards lesnar got up and screamed "Who's the fucking man!" and flipped off the crowd because they were booing him. Then as he was interviewed by Joe Rogan, he proceeded to say that "frank mir had a horseshoe up his ass, and i pulled it out and beat him over the head with it" Then said, "im gonna go home and drink a coors light, because bud light wont give me any money, and that i might go home and lay on top of my wife." Then after that Mir was interviewed with numerous bruises on his face, proceeded to give lesnar his dues for winning the match and said he needs to work on some things. To me thats the response a champion gives. Not stir the pot like lesnar did and make the person who he has already proved he can beat, seem lower than he is.

    So i ask, with having Lesnar in his organization... is Dana White going back on his word on having fighters with class and respect? Because after flipping off the crowd and mentioning sponsers not paying him and having sex with his wife and talking shit after winning a match. How is that any different from the WWE?
    Last edited by Sittingsideways; July 12, 2009, 08:08 AM.
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    Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

    Originally posted by Sittingsideways View Post
    So im not sure how many of you actually follow UFC, or at least occasionally catch a few fights. When i was younger i would go to the video store and they would have the earlier UFC bouts and i remember seeing them and it was always some overweight gross guy with no technique beating on another.

    Throughout the years it has become full of technique and strategy with very little "drunken bar" fighting style. So i've become a little of a fan. I bought into MMA being a legit sport and i enjoy it more than i do boxing. I bought into the fact that Dana White, the "comish" of UFC, wants the ufc to be more of a sport rather than a drama filled specticle that the WWE has become. And it was that, it became a well respected sport.

    Now in comes Brock Lesnar, a former college wrestler turned WWE star, turned failed football star, turned UFC heavyweight champion. Which he procured after 3 fights in the UFC. I disagree with the way he entered the UFC and i disagree with how fast he got a title chance. Usually one in an individual sport like UFC or boxing you have to work your way up the ranks. He did not, he fought 2 matches (one being an undercard) and lost the other to submission. After that he gets a title shot, which is completely ridiculous.

    My problem with this whole thing was tonight, UFC 100. It was a large card with tons of big fights. His being the top fight. It was a rematch between Lesnar and the guy who submitted him, Frank Mir. Lesnar is a big man, and he has heavy hands. My problem is not with his fighting style, and mainly his rise to the top is because of the lack of heavyweight stars in the UFC. But with Dana white, the comish, stating that he desires to have a organization of fighters that have class and fight with dignity and then have this man fight in your league... is just horrible.

    Tonight Lesnar won fair and square. But before the match he refused to touch gloves with Frank Mir. And that is always expected unless there was a huge grudge between fighters, which there was not. The fight went on and lesnar ended up KOing Mir. Afterwards lesnar got up and screamed "Who's the fucking man!" and flipped off the crowd because they were booing him. Then as he was interviewed by Joe Rogan, he proceeded to say that "frank mir had a horseshoe up his ass, and i pulled it out and beat him over the head with it" Then said, "im gonna go home and drink a coors light, because bud light wont give me any money, and that i might go home and lay on top of my wife." Then after that Mir was interviewed with numerous bruises on his face, proceeded to give lesnar his dues for winning the match and said he needs to work on some things. To me thats the response a champion gives. Not stir the pot like lesnar did and make the person who he has already proved he can beat, seem lower than he is.

    So i ask, with having Lesnar in his organization... is Dana White going back on his word on having fighters with class and respect? Because after flipping off the crowd and mentioning sponsers not paying him and having sex with his wife and talking shit after winning a match. How is that any different from the WWE?
    I'm sorry...

    What was it you typed?

    I got sidetracked Googling "nutsack," trying to see what kinds of pictures come up....

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    • #3
      Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

      Originally posted by Sittingsideways View Post
      How is that any different from the WWE?
      It's not, but that's the point. Nobody wants to see 2 nice guys fight each other. Lesnar is creating a character that is meant for the fans to hate. You know what that does? It brings interest to the matches. The same thing happens in boxing (or at least did when boxing was interesting):

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRBfZna8QlA


      And Lesnar got a shot because he's better than the rest of his competition. And the sick part is, he's only getting better.
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      • #4
        GET THIS SHIT THE FUCK OUTTA HERE

        No comment.

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        • #5
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          • #6
            Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

            I agree with Ars. Dana White can bitch and moan about how the UFC isn't the WWE all he wants, and make Brock Lesnar hold up an empty Bud Light (I think the crack about the sponsor is what really got Dana White mad) at his press conference, but the fact is that now there are a lot of people willing to plop down another 50 bucks to see him get his ass kicked as soon as they find someone capable of doing so. (It'll be Fedor) If I had just won the world heavyweight title and an entire arena was booing me for the performance I just gave them, I'd be inclined to flip them all off too.
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            • #7
              Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

              i dunno man, i just lost alot of respect for at least the heavyweight division of the UFC. There hasnt been anyone like that in the ufc, and its not like im not down for change. Change is usually good... but to me this match was just a giant disrespectful match. Mir was pissed after the match because lesnar was just so damn un-classy. You can say that everyone was booing him because its mir's hometown, but las vegas is where they hold the fights all the time, so hardly. They booed him because he brought shame to the beginning and end of that match, and its kind of suprising that no one else agrees. I only had one friend agree with me last night at the party i was at. To me, it just makes the sport seem like they have a regiment of trying to create characters, and to me thats WWE.
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              Originally posted by Ooga View Post
              I'm sorry...

              What was it you typed?

              I got sidetracked Googling "nutsack," trying to see what kinds of pictures come up....
              Did you find anything amusing... i did.
              Google "Nutsack" and see what kind of pictures come up

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              • #8
                Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                Honestly, I've said from the start the UFC could use a little more WWE in its approach to things. Not so much in glitz, and certainly not in the sense of predetermined outcomes, but it would be cool if fighters showed a little more personality and were allowed to "get over" with fans through interviews and such. I understand that the UFC and Dana White are big on sportsmanship and pride, but I think you can have all that and have fighters with personalities and a little bit of showmanship.

                I'm pretty sure Tito Ortiz was a prick in and out of the ring back while Brock Lesnar was wearing a cowboy hat and playing a little guitar for Steve Austin anyways.
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                • #9
                  Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                  wait, let me get this straight: the guy who went off on loretta hunt and used inflammatory speech wants little angles in his octagon?
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                  • #10
                    Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                    Originally posted by noclevername View Post
                    Honestly, I've said from the start the UFC could use a little more WWE in its approach to things. Not so much in glitz, and certainly not in the sense of predetermined outcomes, but it would be cool if fighters showed a little more personality and were allowed to "get over" with fans through interviews and such. I understand that the UFC and Dana White are big on sportsmanship and pride, but I think you can have all that and have fighters with personalities and a little bit of showmanship.

                    I'm pretty sure Tito Ortiz was a prick in and out of the ring back while Brock Lesnar was wearing a cowboy hat and playing a little guitar for Steve Austin anyways.
                    Completely disagree... im not going to explain why. But i think UFC brings enough to keep people interested, people who are already interested in competitive fighting. Drama is for daytime tv and reality television, im a sports fan, and if there is going to be drama in my sports, i want it to be drama with the play and the performance... not in retarded banter.

                    And tito was a douche and thats why he isnt fighting anymore. People got tired of his stupid drama and retarded banter.
                    Google "Nutsack" and see what kind of pictures come up

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                    • #11
                      Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                      I hate the UFC, mindless ape brutality. I wish we could get past this stuff as a species.
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                      • #12
                        Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                        Originally posted by BuddyGoodness View Post
                        I hate the UFC, mindless ape brutality. I wish we could get past this stuff as a species.
                        Im not gonna get into a conversation about humanity, but i disagree with you. There deff. are douches that ruin the sport and fight for the wrong reasons. But there are people who are gifted who want to show what they can do. Who are we to stop them from that?
                        Google "Nutsack" and see what kind of pictures come up

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                        • #13
                          Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                          Originally posted by BuddyGoodness View Post
                          I hate the UFC, mindless ape brutality.
                          yup. i got an idea, let's all pummel each other!
                          Originally posted by Knifeboy
                          I appreciate your distrust in the machine that is the medicinal industry

                          but pops gotta get his viagra

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                          • #14
                            Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                            good talk.
                            http://turntable.fm/traversing

                            BYOB

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                            • #15
                              Re: UFC and Brock Lesner

                              Originally posted by Sittingsideways View Post
                              Drama is for.....reality television.
                              "The Ultimate Fighter?"

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