Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

[FeebleFables]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

The only complaints I don't like are the ones that claim "The band got lazy." I've worked on games that got reviewed and I worked my fucking ass off and I've seen reviewers claim that me and my team were "lazy". Fuck that. Fuck those guys so hard. You don't have to like it, and I think there are some very valid reasons for not appreciating this album... but don't call the band lazy, that's just fucked up. You weren't there, you don't know how much was put into this, so as far as that's concerned, just shut your fucking mouth and stick to what you do know.

Sorry, mini-rant over.

I've said it myself, and I'll stick up for it again: When I say it's my opinion that it sounds lazy, of course I don't KNOW whether they gave it their all or not, it's just my opinion that it doesn't in fact sound (to me) like much effort was put into it. Think about the consequences of it NOT being true, maybe they worked painstakingly on this album... uh oh... That doesn't bode well then. If so much effort was put in to get simple beats and note progressions, things aren't looking too good.

To counter your story, I've written lyrics before and showed a friend that I sometimes collaborate with, he said: "hmm, you didn't put much work into these did you?" He was right, I didn't, he could tell. The only reason he had to tell was because he was basing it off past work. It's enough.

In my opinion people need to shut the fuck up telling people HOW they can critique something, and just let it go.

[jgsb2001]

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it doesn't make anyone a better fan. all it means you have more money to throw away. i can't afford to spend money on things i don't like.

I agree Sangreal, however my comment is directed at those who could purchase the album but won't because of the direction of the album. I definitely understand the economic situation of our time and unfortunately my comments were not specific enough.

If you have the means to support a band (dredg in this case) and choose not to, then I stand by my comment. If you don't like the album and you can't support the band due to a financial situation, then that is whole different situation.

[Ars Sycro]

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Buying a CD helps the band far less than buying a concert ticket or a shirt. Unless they have a 360 deal, which I'm sure dredg does not.

[jgsb2001]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

Buying a CD helps the band far less than buying a concert ticket or a shirt. Unless they have a 360 deal, which I'm sure dredg does not.

I think most people know that . . . you are missing the point of my comments.

[Gnomad]

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I've said it myself, and I'll stick up for it again: When I say it's my opinion that it sounds lazy, of course I don't KNOW whether they gave it their all or not, it's just my opinion that it doesn't in fact sound (to me) like much effort was put into it. Think about the consequences of it NOT being true, maybe they worked painstakingly on this album... uh oh... That doesn't bode well then. If so much effort was put in to get simple beats and note progressions, things aren't looking too good.

To counter your story, I've written lyrics before and showed a friend that I sometimes collaborate with, he said: "hmm, you didn't put much work into these did you?" He was right, I didn't, he could tell. The only reason he had to tell was because he was basing it off past work. It's enough.

In my opinion people need to shut the fuck up telling people HOW they can critique something, and just let it go.

"It sounds lazy." and "The band got lazy." aren't the same thing. You've always spoken to your opinions, and I haven't had a problem with that. You're not proclaiming to state facts. That's what I'm speaking to. Chill out, bro.

[Ars Sycro]

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I don't know of anybody here that has said they will not support the band. In fact, most people have said they'll be buying a shirt, just not the CD. A lot have also indicated they'll be at concerts. What you are arguing is that a "better fan" buys every CD even if they don't like the CD.

[FeebleFables]

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"It sounds lazy." and "The band got lazy." aren't the same thing. You've always spoken to your opinions, and I haven't had a problem with that. You're not proclaiming to state facts. That's what I'm speaking to. Chill out, bro.

meh, it's not so different anyway. It would be really weird if a person was proclaiming they knew the band in fact got lazy when they didn't know. I guess your problem would be with some form of schizophrenia then. Some things just have to be taken as opinion even if it isn't stated as such.

[Gnomad]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

The difference is one speaks about the music and one speaks about the band and their effort. Plenty of reviewers do it, and yeah, you're right, it should be taken as opinion. But I really think these guys believe they know, especially because critics tend to put themselves above art. It comes with the territory, to assume you know more than you do. But you're a music fan, you're not a reviewer.

I guess your problem would be with some form of schizophrenia then.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here, but yeah, sure.

[jgsb2001]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

I don't know of anybody here that has said they will not support the band. In fact, most people have said they'll be buying a shirt, just not the CD. A lot have also indicated they'll be at concerts. What you are arguing is that a "better fan" buys every CD even if they don't like the CD.

Again, you have missed the point of my comments. But it really doesn't matter if you understand my comments or not.

[Ars Sycro]

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I don't know what your point was, but I do know what you said. Perhaps your point was not made very clearly if so many people are misinterpreting it.

[jgsb2001]

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I don't know what your point was, but I do know what you said. Perhaps your point was not made very clearly if so many people are misinterpreting it.

If you don't understand my point, maybe you shouldn't comment. I can't control how you interpret my text, so que sera, sera.

"So many people?" Two? . . . that was 10 minutes of my life I'll never get back.

[AnewKINDofFEELING]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

The guy is a better fan than I am. Clearly. No need to argue with him
I think we can all agree here. I am the asshole in most instances.

[FeebleFables]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

I don't even know what you're trying to say here, but yeah, sure.

My point is that nobody knows but the band as to whether they truly are being lazy, so it's kind of schizophrenic to say otherwise if you don't personally know them or were involved in the recording process. So most people, no matter how they say it, are running on opinion.
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The guy is a better fan than I am. Clearly. No need to argue with him
I think we can all agree here. I am the asshole in most instances.

True fan = Sticking with them forever. Even if that means an album is released that is comprised of only spoons and xylophones and vocal warmups.

Sigh, now I'm an asshole too...

[evasivetear]

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I am the asshole in most instances.

shrug i think we all are.

True fan = Sticking with them forever. Even if that means an album is released that is comprised of only spoons and xylophones and vocal warmups.

are you talking about man man?

[halcyon712]

Re: Album Discussion: Chuckles and Mr. Squeezy

are you talking about man man?

Either that or NIN's Ghosts CD.