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  • AnewKINDofFEELING
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    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    how hereditary do you suppose intelligence is? If we go a little nature/nurture neutral on the subject and say at least a range of intelligence to be developed is inherited, isn't insulting or devaluing another person on the basis of intelligence just as "shallow" and baseless, in a sense, as doing so on the basis of physical appearance? i mean in that case, both are, to some extent, hereditary and beyond that person's control, so all the ugly nerdlings out there dissing on unintelligent people are kind of tit for tat.

    i mean yeah generally speaking, ones intelligence is usually more beneficial to society than ones looks, but can one party deserve insults and the other not when neither trait has much to do with character and both have more to do with who your parents were?

    if this is the case, i cant help but see a classic uppity-hypocrite case here among the aforementioned ugly nerdlings constantly asserting their intellectual superiority.
    I'm as sexy as hell and as sharp as a tack. I am condescending to all.
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    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    then you have people who obsess over learning obscure knowledge so they can feel smarter than everyone else. Those people are asses.
    I have to kind of offer an arguing point here. I am one of those people that is full of obscure knowledge. It's not that I seek out obscure knowledge so that I know something that you don't. I just seek out knowledge and I'm lucky enough to absorb and process it very easily. I don't feel guilty about being learned.

    My intelligence is my biggest blessing in life. The problem arises when you interject your knowledge into another person's thoughts or conversations. They tend to dislike that and label you a know-it-all.

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  • Knifeboy
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    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    Even so I don't think there is anything really wrong with pure ignorance
    I didn't say anything was wrong with ignorance in itself

    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    The problem is people usually just label those who make assumptions and automatic judgments on things they are ignorant on as simply ignorant, but it's probably better described as "judging despite ignorance"..

    Judging despite ignorance is pretty bad tbh especially if you don't acknowledge it

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  • Gnomad
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    I don't know anyone like that. I'm not really sure what you're getting at, either.

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  • Penguin88
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    I was referring to intelligence not really knowledge. Even so I don't think there is anything really wrong with pure ignorance- everyone has topics they are ignorant on i'm sure. The problem is people usually just label those who make assumptions and automatic judgments on things they are ignorant on as simply ignorant, but it's probably better described as "judging despite ignorance".

    then you have people who obsess over learning obscure knowledge so they can feel smarter than everyone else. Those people are asses.

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  • Knifeboy
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    There's a difference between unintelligence and willful ignorance/refusal to learn.

    The first one is fine. The latter is condemnable regardless of intelligence level


    Especially if you take pride in how little you know about a subject. Like some religious people do about evolution, some musicians do about not knowing theory, general publics pride in not knowing science/not being a geek etc

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  • Penguin88
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    how hereditary do you suppose intelligence is? If we go a little nature/nurture neutral on the subject and say at least a range of intelligence to be developed is inherited, isn't insulting or devaluing another person on the basis of intelligence just as "shallow" and baseless, in a sense, as doing so on the basis of physical appearance? i mean in that case, both are, to some extent, hereditary and beyond that person's control, so all the ugly nerdlings out there dissing on unintelligent people are kind of tit for tat.

    i mean yeah generally speaking, ones intelligence is usually more beneficial to society than ones looks, but can one party deserve insults and the other not when neither trait has much to do with character and both have more to do with who your parents were?

    if this is the case, i cant help but see a classic uppity-hypocrite case here among the aforementioned ugly nerdlings constantly asserting their intellectual superiority.

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  • cribble
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    Originally posted by Knifeboy View Post
    No more hippie viking
    Just 100% Viking now.

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  • noclevername
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    Thank god. I was sitting here wondering about that.

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  • Knifeboy
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    I finally got a haircut.. No more hippie viking

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  • Knifeboy
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    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    I don't think it'd be possible to ride a horse without any sort of consent from the animal. Rodeo aside.
    I don't think it'd be possible to fuck a horse without it kicking you in the head if it felt like it was being harmed

    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    Fucking an animal is like sexually taking advantage of a retard. I have a point I'm trying to make I promise. I mean its not fair or moral for one intellectual and self aware being to engage in sexual activities with something on a whole lower prong on the ladder. Anyway, is it legal to fuck retards? Are thy able to give consent? They are often said to have the mind of a child...
    If you want to take that stance, then the act of buying a pet is morally wrong.
    And training a pet to do anything would be slavery

    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    Also a woman in jail said dogs can do things with their dicks no human men can. Yuckkkkk
    ... Man that's creepy

    Originally posted by Gnomad View Post
    Some people TRAIN animals to fuck them. Rarely do animals attempt to engage in actual sexual activity with other species. There's a difference between having sex and showing dominance. Though, dolphins are notorious for trying to have sex with other species, so it's obviously not the same for all animals.
    Animals are trained to do a lot of things with no consent.

    Originally posted by Penguin88 View Post
    Maybe dolphins are smart enough to give sexual consent.
    I doubt it..... But maybe whales are

    Originally posted by Gnomad View Post
    After thinking about it, and this definitely promises the loss on this debate for me, I can't actually ethically justify eating an animal as completely OK, but then turn around and say "Fucking that cow is wrong." So, end of discussion, for me at least. It disgusts me, but I'm not in a position to condemn.
    That's a good point. Although it's taking a step further than what I was arguing. I'm just saying that there are probably animals that you can have sex with without hurting them mentally or physically (there have been studies done on this... That I'd feel creepy googling for), so therefore I can't see why that should be illegal.

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  • Gnomad
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    But that's not a sexual thing with dogs, that's a dominance thing. There is a difference.
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    After thinking about it, and this definitely promises the loss on this debate for me, I can't actually ethically justify eating an animal as completely OK, but then turn around and say "Fucking that cow is wrong." So, end of discussion, for me at least. It disgusts me, but I'm not in a position to condemn.

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  • Penguin88
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    My female dog humps peoples legs. She does it when she's otherwise being playful and I read that its not necessarily an outright sexual thing for them. Puppies do it during play and then yes there's the dominance displays. It bothers people though, including me lol, so I discourage her from doing it.
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    Originally posted by Gnomad View Post
    Some people TRAIN animals to fuck them. Rarely do animals attempt to engage in actual sexual activity with other species. There's a difference between having sex and showing dominance. Though, dolphins are notorious for trying to have sex with other species, so it's obviously not the same for all animals.
    Maybe dolphins are smart enough to give sexual consent. Anyone remember dolphinsex.org or whatever the url was

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  • Ars Sycro
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    And dogs. Dogs will hump anything.

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  • Gnomad
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    Originally posted by Knifeboy View Post
    some people let animals fuck them
    Some people TRAIN animals to fuck them. Rarely do animals attempt to engage in actual sexual activity with other species. There's a difference between having sex and showing dominance. Though, dolphins are notorious for trying to have sex with other species, so it's obviously not the same for all animals.

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  • Penguin88
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    I don't think it'd be possible to ride a horse without any sort of consent from the animal. Rodeo aside.
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    Fucking an animal is like sexually taking advantage of a retard. I have a point I'm trying to make I promise. I mean its not fair or moral for one intellectual and self aware being to engage in sexual activities with something on a whole lower prong on the ladder. Anyway, is it legal to fuck retards? Are thy able to give consent? They are often said to have the mind of a child...
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    Also a woman in jail said dogs can do things with their dicks no human men can. Yuckkkkk

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